Creativity and Imagination (Part 1)
From a Trialogue in 1989 or 1990
Spread on ten cassettes through podcasts 59-78 with a couple of breaks for other topics
Some program notes:
02:36 Rupert Sheldrake: Bringing together the idea of creation and imagination, or evolutionary creativity. . . . There is a profound crisis in science that will change science as we know it because the two fundamental models concerning the basic nature of reality that we have are coming to a head-on collision. âIf the universe is evolving, then the laws of nature are evolving as well.â . . . [Perhaps] âthings are as they are because they were as they were.â . . . âThere must be an interplay between habit and creativity.â . . âCould there be a kind of imagination working in nature?â . . .
16:32 Terence McKenna: âIf the laws of nature are eternal, where were they before the big bang?â . . . . âThe immense improbability that modern science rests on, but cares not to discuss, is this: The belief that the universe sprang from nothing in a single moment.â . . . âHistory is the tracks in the snow left by creativities wandering in the divine imagination.â . . . âChaos is the birthplace of order. Chaos is not the problem. Chaos is the answer.â